tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post7798640521876969876..comments2024-03-24T19:29:46.463-07:00Comments on Ancestral Discoveries: "Who Do You Think You Are?" - Gwyneth PaltrowJanice M. Sellershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-90897898844742314282018-05-24T16:21:14.257-07:002018-05-24T16:21:14.257-07:00Roy, you'll note that Prof. Dynner also said t...Roy, you'll note that Prof. Dynner also said that he was unable to substantiate the TaZ legend. It's certainly possible that the many reports originated from one early one. Tracking down that type of thing can be done (Snopes.com has some great examples), but it takes time and is usually not easy.Janice M. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-90132302882970364472018-05-24T09:12:09.353-07:002018-05-24T09:12:09.353-07:00I have over 700 pages of descendants of the Ta&quo...I have over 700 pages of descendants of the Ta"Z.<br />There appears to be no known evidence that Gwyneth Paltrow is descended from the Ta"Z.<br />My belief is that the multitude of reports concerning a Ta"Z connection came from ONE earlier report and has just been repeated constantly without any verification.<br />If I am wrong.... I would love to have the info.Roy Schmukler (RoyS18@aol.com)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-88851859824986985522017-05-22T08:21:00.346-07:002017-05-22T08:21:00.346-07:00Yes, Prof. Dynner mentioned the Margulios side. B...Yes, Prof. Dynner mentioned the Margulios side. But the press release specifically said a "long line of rabbis named Paltrowicz", which apparently was not actually the case.Janice M. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-9754667241524191382017-05-22T06:02:14.564-07:002017-05-22T06:02:14.564-07:00But Tzvi's wife Chana was the daughter of Meir...But Tzvi's wife Chana was the daughter of Meir Margulios, and the Margulios side could be the part of the family that had generations of rabbisMariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12699437393826488238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-3303000317429736482011-04-03T15:00:47.413-07:002011-04-03T15:00:47.413-07:00Prof. Dynner, if I'm understanding you correct...Prof. Dynner, if I'm understanding you correctly, you found three generations of Paltrowiczes who were rabbis, correct? So the JRI-Poland press release that said Paltrow's "roots go back to a long line of rabbis named Paltrowicz from northeastern Poland" was perhaps a little overstated?Janice M. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-65493320957912912222011-04-03T12:31:16.818-07:002011-04-03T12:31:16.818-07:00Re: the TaZ legend, we tried to substantiate this ...Re: the TaZ legend, we tried to substantiate this but in the end we just couldn't.<br /><br />Another important thing left out was that Tzvi's father was named Paltiel, a relatively rare biblical name. Thus, Tzvi ben Paltiel was polonized in the documents, becoming Paltorowicz.Glenn Dynnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-80033254127973405902011-04-02T21:38:54.610-07:002011-04-02T21:38:54.610-07:00Hi Glenn,
Out of interest, there was no mention o...Hi Glenn,<br /><br />Out of interest, there was no mention of her being descendent from the Taz in the episode. Is she descendent from the Taz or is that a myth?<br /><br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-42325161166186387042011-04-02T19:41:55.022-07:002011-04-02T19:41:55.022-07:00I still learn something new every day, and I'v...I still learn something new every day, and I've been doing this for 36 years!Janice M. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-49383821862871403692011-04-02T19:37:09.263-07:002011-04-02T19:37:09.263-07:00Yes - thank you! That's a good resource. Boo...Yes - thank you! That's a good resource. Bookmarking it now.<br /><br />There's tons of this sort of knowledge that one accumulates after a bunch of time in the genealogy trenches. So much in fact that I think I'll still feel like a newby in 10 years!Carol Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04062588763657870062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-63727168689658902252011-04-02T17:23:35.709-07:002011-04-02T17:23:35.709-07:00Carol,
You're right, I should have discussed t...Carol,<br />You're right, I should have discussed the name situation. This is another time when I have to hope that the behind-the-scenes research actually backs up what is shown on air. Jewish secular names often change from record to record because they aren't the person's "real" name at all. There are many commonly used pairs, but an individual person could call Janice M. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-11986762555860349332011-04-02T16:31:17.232-07:002011-04-02T16:31:17.232-07:00Thank you for the update, Prof. Dynner. It's ...Thank you for the update, Prof. Dynner. It's always nice to learn more than what can fit into the on-air time. And thank you for reading my blog!Janice M. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-44501634366904008492011-04-02T14:23:54.725-07:002011-04-02T14:23:54.725-07:00Thanks for the summary. It turns out that we could...Thanks for the summary. It turns out that we could only find one more generation of rabbis, Tzvi Hirsch's father. He seems to have been the first rabbi of the paternal line, based on what I saw in certain haskamot. However, when I looked into the maternal lines, there were Margaliots and Rabinowicz lines. So there is some real yikhes if maternal lines are considered.Glenn Dynnerhttp://pages.slc.edu/~gdynner/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-68422009578287636342011-04-02T09:56:29.035-07:002011-04-02T09:56:29.035-07:00Beth, thanks for posting the sentence from Stanley...Beth, thanks for posting the sentence from Stanley Diamond's e-mail message. The phrasing does make it sound as though the assistance that JRIP provided was in having the database available online. It may be that the reason there was no on-air credit is because JRIP was simply one of many resources that were used in researching Paltrow's ancestry and they don't list all sources in Janice M. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-38733133810662847062011-04-02T09:19:08.512-07:002011-04-02T09:19:08.512-07:00The episode was frustrating to me because it seeme...The episode was frustrating to me because it seemed as if they stopped just when it was really getting interested. I had some advance information in the form of Stanley Diamond's email on the JRI-Poland digest:<br />"The show's researchers were able to tap into JRI-Poland's online database as the starting point in documenting Paltrow's ancestry. The JRI-Poland database has 90Beth Galletohttp://galletomedia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-81933318187000958472011-04-02T08:13:59.622-07:002011-04-02T08:13:59.622-07:00I was told that JRIP helped with the research that...I was told that JRIP helped with the research that we saw the results of in the synagogue, but I never heard specifics on what exactly they did. Perhaps "help" could have meant something as simple as the fact that the records were hosted online?Janice M. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466785140555595069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-53740584340666350172011-04-02T07:59:53.382-07:002011-04-02T07:59:53.382-07:00I noticed that the name Ida was another name for E...I noticed that the name Ida was another name for Edith. I hesitate to call it a "nickname" but that's about the only word I have for it right now. This is one of the things I would have to rely on an expert for - or at least someone more well versed in older names than I am. There are people who just KNOW that Ida and Edith (or Simon and Simcha) can be the same person - I'm Carol Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04062588763657870062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1350318808703965214.post-46927116417755356472011-04-02T07:50:02.790-07:002011-04-02T07:50:02.790-07:00I understood that jri-poland helped her but didn&#...I understood that jri-poland helped her but didn't see it mentioned last night.tony hausnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15592476009189383255noreply@blogger.com